An interesting development
The Rome Report calls attention to this tid-bit from The Tablet:
"These signs [of an ecumenical thaw] were manifest during a major international gathering of theologians at Ushaw College near Durham. One happened at an Anglican Eucharist when a curial cardinal went up to a Church of England bishop, head bowed, for a blessing at Communion. At least two Catholic bishops, the Ushaw rector and most other Catholics present did the same."
One ought not read too much into this, of course, but it is at least mildly interesting. Now if they had received Communion, that would have been news!
"These signs [of an ecumenical thaw] were manifest during a major international gathering of theologians at Ushaw College near Durham. One happened at an Anglican Eucharist when a curial cardinal went up to a Church of England bishop, head bowed, for a blessing at Communion. At least two Catholic bishops, the Ushaw rector and most other Catholics present did the same."
One ought not read too much into this, of course, but it is at least mildly interesting. Now if they had received Communion, that would have been news!
posted by Texanglican (R.W. Foster+) | 11:06 AM
13 Comments:
its a sign of respect, and i hope Angelicans who attend Roman Catholic Mass would show the same sign of respect.
Mimi,
I'm quite sure they would.
Anglicans and Catholics get along swimmingly.
Well not around here, they don't! whichi s sad!
Yes, it is very sad.
They are the closest brethren we have outside the Catholic Church.
I read several Anglican blogs, and we never fail to feel the same on all critical social issues, and most Church issues.
Of course, I read only orthodox Anglican blogs. So that may be why.
Sadly, Mimi is probably speaking of the Anglican archdiocese of Sydney in Australia. They are dominated by hard-line "protestant" Anglicans (tending, I believe, even toward (gasp) Calvinism!). I was told by an Anglo-Catholic priest friend of mine that when he visited there to perform a baptism a couple of years ago, he was told he could not wear the proper vestments, just a suit. Indeed, clergy there often don't even wear clericals. Far worse, they have seriously planned in the near future to allow lay people to preside at the Holy Eucharist (which would be totally unacceptable, of course). That there would be overt anti-Catholicism there is not surprising to me.
Tex,
Thanks for the info. I am familiar with my Anglican brethren only through you and Fr. Nelson; nonetheless, I must say that the problems do not shock me.
It's the same as someone like me trying to fit in to a diocese like Los Angeles.
Orthodox Catholics are ridiculed and mocked in places like LA.
And I don't know about laypeople presiding at the Eucharist at an Anglican Church, I can only say that if a layperson 'presides' at the Eucharist at a Catholic Church, it ain't the Eucharist.
Yikes.
Orthodox people are in the same boat, Anglican and RC, it appears.
Ma Beck, i might have a solution to ur problem. Apparently the parish of Westfeild i think its called its orthodox... we have a sister women college residence in the area... we get good feed back from there... anyways i'll check that out for u...
U think the USA is bad with liturgy, come here to Australia, we have mother's giving First Holy Communion to their child, and all kinds of things happening, priests preaching heresy from the pulpit and calling certain movements with the church fundamentalist and masons....
Amen, Ma Beck. If the Sydney folks go through with their little "lay Eucharist" scheme it would shatter what little remains of Anglican unity in light of ECUSA's recent follies. That ain't no Eucharist,so there ain't no eucharistic fellowship with them if they do it. Let's hope that better sense prevails there. BTW, have you been to the Institute of Christ the King (is that name right?) parish down in Hyde Park/Kenwood south of the U of C? An art deco church building was just being handed over to them when I left town a couple of years ago and I wondered how they are doing.
Mimi,
Thanks so much for taking the time to post about an orthodox Church in LA. Actually, I live in Chicago, and belong to an ultra-orthodox parish, St. John Cantius. (www.cantius.org)
However, it's heartening to know there is one in LA, should I ever visit. Cdl. Mahoney must not have heard of it yet. :)
I am stunned and saddened about what you have told me about the Church in Australia. (And I thought AUSTRIA was bad!)
I will continue to pray for an end to this nonsense. ("How long, O Lord?)
Tex,
I am very familiar with the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest. I go down every so often and help them paint and clean.
(It's the old St. Gelasius that they took over.)
Msgr. Schmitz oozes holiness and warmth. He's something else.
I love them very much.
It's going to be quite a parish when they get done with it!
Yay! More orthodoxy!!
The story of how it all happened is fascinating. I will e-mail you the story if you'd like.
:)
Please do send it to me, ma'am. Thanks texanglican@comcast.net
Chicago Land... i know the priests and the ppl who have been entrusted, St Mary of the Angels, if i remember correctly! :D
Mimi,
I LOVE SMA Church. I have been there several times.
It's beauty rendered me speechless the first time I walked in.
Opus Dei priests.
Can't go wrong with them. :)
Ma Beck, drop by my blog.... :D oh did i mention that i'm considering a vocation with them??
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