Texanglican
"The Preachers chiefly shall take heed that they teach nothing in their preaching, which they would have the people religiously to observe and believe, but that which is agreeable to the Doctrine of the Old Testament and the New, and that which the Catholick Fathers and Ancient Bishops have gathered out of that Doctrine." A proposed canon of Elizabeth I, 1571
About Me
- Name: Texanglican (R.W. Foster+)
- Location: Bedford, Texas, United States
I am a presbyter in the diocese of Fort Worth, Texas (Anglican Church in North America). I serve as Chaplain at St. Vincent's School and as a canon of St. Vincent's Cathedral Church in Bedford, Texas. In addition to my parish duties and teaching Religion classes in the school I am also the Middle School Social Studies teacher.
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"Loudly proclaiming that you are not part of the vessel's journey while you still stand on it's deck watching the shoreline recede is simply a denial of reality."
Vivid and apt language.
Bill+
As a retired pilot of 40 years or so, I liken the situation to holding at your primary destination for the weather to clear. Some patience is needed, but at some point you need to go to your alternate while you still have the fuel to get there. IMHO, it is LONG past the point where any but the most foolhardy would stay in TEC waiting for better weather. I have been enjoying the Peace and quiet of my alternate for some years now.
"Loudly proclaiming that you are not part of the vessel's journey while you still stand on it's deck watching the shoreline recede is simply a denial of reality."
Is that what you would say to Sarah Hey? That she's in denial?
Could you handle her snark?
I know better than to say that on SF! They are banning people these days for that kind of plain speaking :-)
Frankly, I don't understand Ms. Hey's attitude considering what she knows about the goings on in TEC and the world-wide communion. She seems to be basically saying, "Things are OK in my parish right now--they may fall apart a few years from now but we can muddle along with the status quo a bit longer. Since the situation is tolerable locally right now I won't budge nor will I approve of anyone saying it is time for anyone else to do so!" SF is her venue, and she is entitled to police it any way she wants. But I truly don't get her hostility to "lobbying" for more departures from a ship she clearly can see has sailed. Ah, well.
There are many reasons for staying in TEC. The first is you agree with what they are doing. Good riddance.
The second is that you don't, but are in a position to do some good. The equivalent of being a crewman on the Titanic, and staying until the very end to help people to safety. There are many such, particularly in transitional dioceses which still have a large faithful minority. One person in particular serves on a Standing Committee, and has successfully blocked the inhibition of faithful priests. While they can't stop the rot, and are under no delusions they can, they can at least gum up the works of the liberals. Others serve aging parishes whose members have no local faithful church to attend. All of these deserve our respect and support in their chosen ministry.
A few firmly believe that God will work a miracle. While unlikely, it is hard, considering our faith, to dismiss that out of hand. Finally, there are those who are literally hanging on for their pensions in the case of priests, and the mortgage in the case of the vestry. I still see these fine people from my final TEC church, and always after the pleasantries ask them how things are at the Shrine of Laodicea? For these, there is little doubt that contempt is fully justified, and that on the last day, there is going to be some 'spaining to do.
My own feeling is they have gotten a bit oversensitive at SF, but there have been a few folks, one who has been banned there and posts here, who have been unwilling or unable to make these distinctions. Having someone constantly denigrate others who have chosen faithful but different paths is not conducive to good conversations. It is also, frankly, boorish.
Indaba and the Listening Process are all about having "good conversations."
That is, quite frankly, quite boorish.
Have at it.
Sarah Hey is, untimately but also completely, a "private judgenment Protestant," who thinks that she can make up, revise or concoct Protestantism, or for that matter Protestantism, to accord to whatever she thinks "
Christian Orthodoxy" is. She is, in fact, the creaator and concoctor of what she thinks to be "orthodox Christianity," but what is little or nothing more than her imaginative conceit of what Christianity is. She (or, rather, her views of what the Christian Religion is) has little more to do with Christian Orthodoxy than the views of Spong, Wakeman or the like, and so are to be ignored and held in contempt by all faithful Christians.
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